Thank you very much MHL! I don't understand the ldrmodules evidence yet but I am working on it. I thought I saw that PID 464 svchost.exe was started with C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe (per dlllist). In that case (there is a svchost.exe file in that folder and persistance is added to ...NT\currentversion\winlogon\userinit), I thought it was just executed rather than injection by hollowing. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:15:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vol-users] IAT hook question From: michael.hale(a)gmail.com To: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com CC: vol-users(a)volatilityfoundation.org Ah I se what's happening, its a pretty reasonable explanation. There's no issue with Volatility's apihooks, rather you're being misled by GMER on the live system. So first let's go back to your log file. It says there are about 60 hooked functions across two DLLs (kernel32 and user32) in the svchost.exe process. Here are the first three: IAT C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe[464] @ C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe [KERNEL32.dll!CreateThread] 0274EC81 IAT C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe[464] @ C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe [KERNEL32.dll!ExitProcess] 08A10000 IAT C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe[464] @ C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe [KERNEL32.dll!ExitThread] 330041B3 As I mentioned before, the first strange thing is the value in the far right which GMER just calls "Value" - with no indication of what value its supposed to be. I went back and installed Coreflood on a system (a malware we know really uses IAT hooks) and looked at the GMER output: IAT C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe[3072] @ C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL [KERNEL32.dll!LoadLibraryA] 7FF82A50 IAT C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe[3072] @ C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL [KERNEL32.dll!GetProcAddress] 7FF82360 IAT C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe[3072] @ C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL [KERNEL32.dll!CreateFileA] 7FF821E0 So "Value" is the address of the hook - where the rootkit code exists. In your Red October log file, its showing several values in kernel address ranges like CC335B5E and E8575300. Its impossible for a usermode module's IAT to put in kernel space, so that suggests GMER is looking at the wrong data. Why is GMER looking at the wrong data? Many tools like LordPE and Import Reconstructor, when they perform dumping/rebuilding tasks, they read the PE header from the file on disk (in this case C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe). The PE header tells the programs to look at specific offsets to find the "Value" being read. Taking that information from the file on disk is good, in the case that malware erases its PE header from memory. However, its bad if the malware is packed on disk and during the unpacking process it alters its PE header, including the sections, imports, exports, etc. This changes the data at those offsets that the file on disk says. So GMER is really reading some random values in the body of the unpacked process. So LordPE and ImpRec have a configuration option to disable the *default* behavior of reading PE headers from disk instead of memory. However, GMER does not - it always reads from disk. Also you can tell from ldrmodules output that this is a case of "Process Hollowing" malware - it not only replaces the PE header of the original svchost.exe in memory during the unpacking process, but the entire body of the executable is replaced. Anyway, hope that makes sense. MHL On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Mike Lambert <dragonforen(a)hotmail.com>wrote: I've put together a package for you, http://michael-lambert.us/ Rocra_130115b.zip In it is the memory image, 130115b.w32. Infection time is approx 1637 CST on 15 Jan. svchost.exe PID is 464, parent is msmx21.exe PID 1404 Also included is the DOC file that drops and runs msmx21.exe which drops and runs svchost.exe Thanks for looking at it. Is anyone else looking at Red October? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:45:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vol-users] IAT hook question From: michael.hale(a)gmail.com To: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com I got the exe from your website, thanks. Do you happen to have the original malware sample, or an md5 of the sample. There are a few things I'd like to check out that may be easier if I had a full memory dump. Thanks, talk to you soon. MHL On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Mike Lambert <dragonforen(a)hotmail.com>wrote: MHL, I've tried sending twice, 2nd time passworded. Rejected both times. I've not seen anything on the Vol-list either. May be a size problem. ---- Reporting-MTA: dns;snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com Received-From-MTA: dns;SNT118-W46 Arrival-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:18:41 -0800 Final-Recipient: rfc822;michael.hale(a)gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.5.0 Diagnostic-Code: smtp;552-5.7.0 Our system detected an illegal attachment on your message. Please 552-5.7.0 visit http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590to 552 5.7.0 review our attachment guidelines. m1si2744262obl.114 ---- I have put it here. PW is Rocra http://michael-lambert.us/Rocra_svchost-exe_464_exe-dump.zip Let me know when you receive the .exe successfully. Thanks, Mike From: postmaster(a)mail.hotmail.com To: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:26:58 -0800 Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. michael.hale(a)gmail.com --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com To: michael.hale(a)gmail.com CC: vol-users(a)volatilityfoundation.org Subject: RE: [Vol-users] IAT hook question Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:26:31 -0600 First email was bounced by gmail. I've added a pw to the zip. PW is Rocra Let me know when you have the .exe ok. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:48:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vol-users] IAT hook question From: michael.hale(a)gmail.com To: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com CC: vol-users(a)volatilityfoundation.org Hmm sorry, I must be reading the GMER log incorrectly: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com> wrote: MHL, Thank you very much. Attached is a ZIP. (Rocra is the short name) I used Volatility 2.1 C:\Python27\volatility-2.1>vol.py dlldump -f E:\Tests\130115b\Vol\130115b.w32 --profile=WinXPSP3x86 -p 464 -D E:\Tests\130115b\Vol\dlldump > E:\Tests\130115b\Vol\dlldump.txt Volatile Systems Volatility Framework 2.1 C:\Python27\volatility-2.1> Have a good day, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:47:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vol-users] IAT hook question From: michael.hale(a)gmail.com To: dragonforen(a)hotmail.com CC: vol-users(a)volatilityfoundation.org Mike, if you could use dlldump and extract kernel32.dll from pid 464 and send it to me, I'll take a look. The necessary pages of the PE file may just not be memory resident. MHL On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Mike Lambert <dragonforen(a)hotmail.com> wrote: I am looking at a Red October infection. The malware is svchost PID 464, C:\Program Files\Windows NT\svchost.exe GMER tells me that the IAT is hooked. See attached. I wanted to see this with Volatility per the apihooks documentation here http://code.google.com/p/volatility/wiki/CommandReferenceMal22 "As of Volatility 2.1, apihooks also detects hooked winsock procedure tables, includes an easier to read output format, supports multiple hop disassembly, and can optionally scan quicker through memory by ignoring non-critical processes and DLLs. Here is an example of detecting IAT hooks installed by Coreflood. The hooking module is unknown because there is no module (DLL) associated with the memory in which the rootkit code exists. If you want to extract the code containing the hooks, you have a few options: " I tried apihooks in Volatility 2.1 and 2.2, below is the result C:\Python27\volatility-2.1>vol.py -f E:\Tests\130115b\Vol\130115b.w32 --profile=WinXPSP3x86 -p 464 apihooks Volatile Systems Volatility Framework 2.1 C:\Python27\volatility-2.1> ------------------------- C:\Python27\volatility-2.2>vol.py apihooks -f E:\Tests\130115b\Vol\130115b.w32 --profile=WinXPSP3x86 -p 464 Volatile Systems Volatility Framework 2.2 C:\Python27\volatility-2.2> ========================= My question is, "what am I doing wrong?" It is probably something simple. Thanks for the help, Mike _______________________________________________ Vol-users mailing list Vol-users(a)volatilityfoundation.org http://lists.volatilityfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/vol-users